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::Thx. I'll look for a reference before I add the co-creator. [[User:Cuc|Cuc]] ([[User talk:Cuc|talk]]) 12:15, 11 March 2020 (PDT)
::Thx. I'll look for a reference before I add the co-creator. [[User:Cuc|Cuc]] ([[User talk:Cuc|talk]]) 12:15, 11 March 2020 (PDT)
::: Thank you very much for improving the accuracy of the information here! I don't know the complete history of Binary Homeworlds, but I do know that John Cooper is listed as the sole creator in all Looney Labs rulebooks since at least 2011 (i.e. the oldest pdf I have access to). It is probably reasonable to assume John has always been given credit. The rules are essentially the same; the reduction in the size of the bank is recommended in the full Homeworlds rules on John's website and the win condition is identical to the case of one "good" player vs one "evil" player - they don't really ignore the rule as much as sidestep the unnecessary formality. I think we should leave the designer credit as-is and just add a note of trivia if you can figure out whoever first suggested playing with just 2 players. -- [[User:Umjahwa|Umjahwa]] ([[User talk:Umjahwa|talk]]) 13:41, 11 March 2020 (PDT)
::: Thank you very much for improving the accuracy of the information here! I don't know the complete history of Binary Homeworlds, but I do know that John Cooper is listed as the sole creator in all Looney Labs rulebooks since at least 2011 (i.e. the oldest pdf I have access to). It is probably reasonable to assume John has always been given credit. The rules are essentially the same; the reduction in the size of the bank is recommended in the full Homeworlds rules on John's website and the win condition is identical to the case of one "good" player vs one "evil" player - they don't really ignore the rule as much as sidestep the unnecessary formality. I think we should leave the designer credit as-is and just add a note of trivia if you can figure out whoever first suggested playing with just 2 players. -- [[User:Umjahwa|Umjahwa]] ([[User talk:Umjahwa|talk]]) 13:41, 11 March 2020 (PDT)
:::: Here's a quote from Andrew himself on a Facebook post about this very issue: [https://www.facebook.com/groups/StarshipCaptains/permalink/4004617169551995/?comment_id=4004876032859442 "Homeworlds is John’s game. All I did was to reduce the size of the bank when playing with 2, and to evangelize the two player as the best way to play."] He might be a co-designer of this version (personally, I don't think so), but he's definitely not the sole designer, as had been listed on this page between [https://web.archive.org/web/20061011101352/http://icehousegames.org/wiki/?title=Binary_Homeworlds its creation in 2005] and [https://www.icehousegames.org/wiki/index.php?title=Binary_Homeworlds&diff=10676&oldid=10675 earlier this month]. [[User:JorWat|JorWat]] ([[User talk:JorWat|talk]]) 15:49, 11 March 2020 (PDT)